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		<title>By: Thomas Power</title>
		<link>http://www.athomeintuscany.org/2009/07/15/luxury-travel-and-local-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My &#039;favourite&#039; example of this dilemma is in the Galapagos Islands. 

The Royal Palm Hotel on Santa Cruz Island was built a few years back against the express wishes of the Galapagos National Park Authority. However, given that it was being built outside the park the Park had  no means of preventing the construction. 

The precedent it set is that hotels can be built on the 5% or so of the islands that are not National park. This means that there is no effective means for the national park to control visitor numbers (it can and does control the numbers visiting by boat and supervises it closely). 

This raises the prospect of unlimited tourism growth with all the strains on services (water, waste, etc) and pressure on ecosystems that this entails. 

In addition, visitors to the hotel can fly out for one or two nights (cruises are really only 4/5 or 7 nights) meaning an increase in flights to the islands and greater risk of introduction of invasive species. 

So, that&#039;s the bad. A big luxury pad flying in the face of the Galapagos National Park authority and cashing in on time poor luxury travellers. 

However, now that it&#039;s there, they Royal Palm has begun to do some considerable good. 

For instance, they have started to work with the locals on Santa Cruz to reintroduce native species to gardens and farms on the island and eliminate the introduced species of plants. 

They have a very effective and highly regarded training scheme for locals to work in hospitality and catering. It has been a traditional paucity of suitable staff on the islands that have forced hotels and boats to employ staff from the mainland. 

This in turn increases the pressure of immigration on the islands. It is the growth in human population above all else which threatens the stability of the islands&#039; ecosystems. 

The Royal Palm is working well in training locals and therefore reducing strains of immigration from the mainland. 

Then there&#039;s the fact that even if they do only fly out for one or two nights, guest still have to pay $100 national park entrance fee.

In summary, it is important to maintain a sense of perspective and at least appreciate that while a hotel/property might be all bad in one aspect, it can still do good. 

I would personally avoid the place at all costs as I think you can visit the Galapagos Islands in a culturally/environmentally better way (see for instance http://www.pura-aventura.com/category/30_galapagos_cruises_holidays) but I must admit that I&#039;m not as rude about the Royal Palm as I used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My &#8216;favourite&#8217; example of this dilemma is in the Galapagos Islands. </p>
<p>The Royal Palm Hotel on Santa Cruz Island was built a few years back against the express wishes of the Galapagos National Park Authority. However, given that it was being built outside the park the Park had  no means of preventing the construction. </p>
<p>The precedent it set is that hotels can be built on the 5% or so of the islands that are not National park. This means that there is no effective means for the national park to control visitor numbers (it can and does control the numbers visiting by boat and supervises it closely). </p>
<p>This raises the prospect of unlimited tourism growth with all the strains on services (water, waste, etc) and pressure on ecosystems that this entails. </p>
<p>In addition, visitors to the hotel can fly out for one or two nights (cruises are really only 4/5 or 7 nights) meaning an increase in flights to the islands and greater risk of introduction of invasive species. </p>
<p>So, that&#8217;s the bad. A big luxury pad flying in the face of the Galapagos National Park authority and cashing in on time poor luxury travellers. </p>
<p>However, now that it&#8217;s there, they Royal Palm has begun to do some considerable good. </p>
<p>For instance, they have started to work with the locals on Santa Cruz to reintroduce native species to gardens and farms on the island and eliminate the introduced species of plants. </p>
<p>They have a very effective and highly regarded training scheme for locals to work in hospitality and catering. It has been a traditional paucity of suitable staff on the islands that have forced hotels and boats to employ staff from the mainland. </p>
<p>This in turn increases the pressure of immigration on the islands. It is the growth in human population above all else which threatens the stability of the islands&#8217; ecosystems. </p>
<p>The Royal Palm is working well in training locals and therefore reducing strains of immigration from the mainland. </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the fact that even if they do only fly out for one or two nights, guest still have to pay $100 national park entrance fee.</p>
<p>In summary, it is important to maintain a sense of perspective and at least appreciate that while a hotel/property might be all bad in one aspect, it can still do good. </p>
<p>I would personally avoid the place at all costs as I think you can visit the Galapagos Islands in a culturally/environmentally better way (see for instance <a href="http://www.pura-aventura.com/category/30_galapagos_cruises_holidays)" rel="nofollow">http://www.pura-aventura.com/category/30_galapagos_cruises_holidays)</a> but I must admit that I&#8217;m not as rude about the Royal Palm as I used to be.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Luxury travel &#38; local communities - Make Travel Fair UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Luxury travel &#38; local communities - Make Travel Fair UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Twitted by casinadirosa</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“if there is not that interest, (not so much of friendship but of mutual interest, curiosity and respect), then that is the worst type of traveler you can meet. They could as well read a guidebook and watch some documentaries and stay home.” 

These are the people who ask us over and over, &quot;where is the best place to go in Europe?&quot; They are trophy travelers, just wanting to set foot in all the right places. Nothing else seems to matter. 

james</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“if there is not that interest, (not so much of friendship but of mutual interest, curiosity and respect), then that is the worst type of traveler you can meet. They could as well read a guidebook and watch some documentaries and stay home.” </p>
<p>These are the people who ask us over and over, &#8220;where is the best place to go in Europe?&#8221; They are trophy travelers, just wanting to set foot in all the right places. Nothing else seems to matter. </p>
<p>james</p>
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		<title>By: gloria</title>
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		<dc:creator>gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to point out this &lt;a href=&quot;http://slowtalk.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/862600685/m/242102662/p/2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discussion on the Slow Travel Forum&lt;/a&gt; about a recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whl.travel/blog/?p=685&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;interesting opinion article on tourism and the global financial crisis&lt;/a&gt; published on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whl.travel/blog/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whl.travel blog&lt;/a&gt;. 

I left a message saying that I disagreed and some people pointed out that maybe my opinion also derives from a different attitude towards interpersonal relations that Italians could have. 

Somebody wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The big problem, I think, is that Italians (and actually, from what I&#039;ve experienced, Europeans in general) really do want more of a friendly relationship with visitors than many travelers are interested in (Americans and Germans in particular, and yes I know that&#039;s over-generalizing), particularly when traveling in groups.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I replied that 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;if there is not that interest, (not so much of friendship but of mutual interest, curiosity and respect), then that is the worst type of traveler you can meet. They could as well read a guidebook and watch some documentaries and stay home.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course, just my personal opinion. 

You can read more about the discussion &lt;a href=&quot;http://slowtalk.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/862600685/m/242102662/p/2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. And my comment about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whl.travel/blog/?p=685&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whl.travel blog&lt;/a&gt; article is here.

&lt;strong&gt;Thank you!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to point out this <a href="http://slowtalk.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/862600685/m/242102662/p/2" rel="nofollow">discussion on the Slow Travel Forum</a> about a recent <a href="http://www.whl.travel/blog/?p=685" rel="nofollow">interesting opinion article on tourism and the global financial crisis</a> published on the <a href="http://www.whl.travel/blog/" rel="nofollow">whl.travel blog</a>. </p>
<p>I left a message saying that I disagreed and some people pointed out that maybe my opinion also derives from a different attitude towards interpersonal relations that Italians could have. </p>
<p>Somebody wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The big problem, I think, is that Italians (and actually, from what I&#8217;ve experienced, Europeans in general) really do want more of a friendly relationship with visitors than many travelers are interested in (Americans and Germans in particular, and yes I know that&#8217;s over-generalizing), particularly when traveling in groups.&#8221;
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<p>I replied that </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;if there is not that interest, (not so much of friendship but of mutual interest, curiosity and respect), then that is the worst type of traveler you can meet. They could as well read a guidebook and watch some documentaries and stay home.&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, just my personal opinion. </p>
<p>You can read more about the discussion <a href="http://slowtalk.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/862600685/m/242102662/p/2" rel="nofollow">here</a>. And my comment about the <a href="http://www.whl.travel/blog/?p=685" rel="nofollow">whl.travel blog</a> article is here.</p>
<p><strong>Thank you!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: gloria</title>
		<link>http://www.athomeintuscany.org/2009/07/15/luxury-travel-and-local-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Giulia, you are right. The problem is much more than luxury tourism. 

And I totally agree with you: ethical or responsible is indeed about considering the balance between what you take and what you give.

For those who don&#039;t know &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/vallenuova&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Giulia&lt;/a&gt;, she&#039;s the gracious host of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vallenuova.it/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;La Locanda della Valle Nuova&lt;/a&gt; in beautiful Le Marche. 

By the way, are you suggesting that, normally, I don&#039;t provoke you enough!? :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Giulia, you are right. The problem is much more than luxury tourism. </p>
<p>And I totally agree with you: ethical or responsible is indeed about considering the balance between what you take and what you give.</p>
<p>For those who don&#8217;t know <a href="http://twitter.com/vallenuova" rel="nofollow">Giulia</a>, she&#8217;s the gracious host of <a href="http://www.vallenuova.it/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">La Locanda della Valle Nuova</a> in beautiful Le Marche. </p>
<p>By the way, are you suggesting that, normally, I don&#8217;t provoke you enough!? <img src='http://www.athomeintuscany.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Giulia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giulia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gloria,
I have to admit that, the first time that, filling a questionnaire for inclusion of my place in a &quot;responsible travel&quot; website, I found questions like &quot;is the hotel locally owned?&quot; or &quot;does the hotel recruit local staff&quot; I thought that they were questions that only regarded hotels in the so called &quot;developing countries&quot;. Thinking about it later on, I realized that the same problem exists everywhere in the world (and probably it&#039;s not only about luxury travel).
Of course these are not the only relevant questions, there are many factors that determine wether a business is &quot;rooted&quot; in the local reality or if it&#039;s just a Disneyland place where Mickey is replaced by the Chianina cows. 
I think that the point is more about &quot;real&quot; experiences and understanding of a place and culture vs. &quot;the ultimate Tuscany experience: become a Tuscan in 3 days&quot; or &quot;travel (and be able to tell your friends that you&#039;ve been there) but feel like you never left home&quot;.
I agree with you, responsible travel should not be only about the environment but mainly about people (and the environment considered as the place where people live, that should be respected and kept for future genrations).
Some kind of tourism can be considered as the new colonialism, where all the profits go to one part of the world and nothing goes to the other part. 
Luckily enough that&#039;s not always the way it works and I read about places (that we may well describe as &quot;luxury accommodations&quot;) where, even if the idea and the money come from abroad, revert quite a lot into local welfare! 
From my point of view being fair, ethical or responsible is about considering the balance between what you take and what you give as a very important criteria. Unluckily this is not often done in many fields, not only luxury travel. Of course people should be free to do what they wish with their businesses and money but other people (the travellers) should be free to choose to spend their holidays and their money somewhere ethical and responsible. 
The only thing we can do is raise the issue, work in that direction and spread the word.

As you can see, if properly provoked, I can write hundreds of words too.... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gloria,<br />
I have to admit that, the first time that, filling a questionnaire for inclusion of my place in a &#8220;responsible travel&#8221; website, I found questions like &#8220;is the hotel locally owned?&#8221; or &#8220;does the hotel recruit local staff&#8221; I thought that they were questions that only regarded hotels in the so called &#8220;developing countries&#8221;. Thinking about it later on, I realized that the same problem exists everywhere in the world (and probably it&#8217;s not only about luxury travel).<br />
Of course these are not the only relevant questions, there are many factors that determine wether a business is &#8220;rooted&#8221; in the local reality or if it&#8217;s just a Disneyland place where Mickey is replaced by the Chianina cows.<br />
I think that the point is more about &#8220;real&#8221; experiences and understanding of a place and culture vs. &#8220;the ultimate Tuscany experience: become a Tuscan in 3 days&#8221; or &#8220;travel (and be able to tell your friends that you&#8217;ve been there) but feel like you never left home&#8221;.<br />
I agree with you, responsible travel should not be only about the environment but mainly about people (and the environment considered as the place where people live, that should be respected and kept for future genrations).<br />
Some kind of tourism can be considered as the new colonialism, where all the profits go to one part of the world and nothing goes to the other part.<br />
Luckily enough that&#8217;s not always the way it works and I read about places (that we may well describe as &#8220;luxury accommodations&#8221;) where, even if the idea and the money come from abroad, revert quite a lot into local welfare!<br />
From my point of view being fair, ethical or responsible is about considering the balance between what you take and what you give as a very important criteria. Unluckily this is not often done in many fields, not only luxury travel. Of course people should be free to do what they wish with their businesses and money but other people (the travellers) should be free to choose to spend their holidays and their money somewhere ethical and responsible.<br />
The only thing we can do is raise the issue, work in that direction and spread the word.</p>
<p>As you can see, if properly provoked, I can write hundreds of words too&#8230;. <img src='http://www.athomeintuscany.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gloria</title>
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		<dc:creator>gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Len and Pelumi! Thank you for your comments. It&#039;s a difficult matter. I understand people have the right to do what they wish with their business and money. Yet it&#039;s painful to watch sometimes. Especially when they open something up in the place you consider home. It&#039;s probably just that I&#039;m jealous! ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Len and Pelumi! Thank you for your comments. It&#8217;s a difficult matter. I understand people have the right to do what they wish with their business and money. Yet it&#8217;s painful to watch sometimes. Especially when they open something up in the place you consider home. It&#8217;s probably just that I&#8217;m jealous! ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Is Gordon Ramsay Italy&#8217;s favourite chef?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Gordon Ramsay Italy&#8217;s favourite chef?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] needs a Gordon Ramsay restaurant?&#8221;, Ramsay makes another strike in Italy, this time in Tuscany at the Castel Monastero, near [...]</description>
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		<title>By: pelumi</title>
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		<dc:creator>pelumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gloria
Your article makes some excellent points. 
I for one am not a fan of these types of resorts simply because when I come to Tuscany I want to experience Tuscany not Ramsey. 
There is nothing wrong with luxury travel but my recommendation would be for people to try the simple life (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.casinadirosa.it&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Casina di Rosa&lt;/a&gt; where we thoroughly enjoyed our stay last year) and many other places off the beaten track provide a wonderful and affordable refuge far form the madding crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gloria<br />
Your article makes some excellent points.<br />
I for one am not a fan of these types of resorts simply because when I come to Tuscany I want to experience Tuscany not Ramsey.<br />
There is nothing wrong with luxury travel but my recommendation would be for people to try the simple life (<a href="http://www.casinadirosa.it" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Casina di Rosa</a> where we thoroughly enjoyed our stay last year) and many other places off the beaten track provide a wonderful and affordable refuge far form the madding crowd.</p>
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